Episode 51: Season Two Reflection
Listen in as Steve and Sophie reflect on season, discuss season three, updates, and announcements!
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Welcome to the Under the Hat podcast.
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The show where we talk about
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everything and anything
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that is top of mind in education.
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The goal is to provide
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meaningful conversations to
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what is currently happening
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in our classrooms.
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Stories, pains, moments of success.
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We want to hear it all.
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Friends,
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I feel like I owe you a sincere apology.
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It's been a good...
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three, four,
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I don't know how many weeks
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since we've done a month.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We did this whole jam of March madness.
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That was March.
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That's a better indicator of
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how long it's been.
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But yeah, it's been long.
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Did we not do one?
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Did we not do one in the
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whole month of April?
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I, I would have to check the archives.
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Sophie, where'd you go?
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I'll be back.
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uh but it has been a while
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um but we wanted to just do
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like you know season finale
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close this season down this
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is season three uh no no
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season two uh sophie and i
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are doing a lot of work on
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season three that's where
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my brain's at right now um
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season three will kick off
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in august uh we already
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have a lot of phenomenal oh
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my gosh so i just lost
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all of my thoughts right now
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sophie that is amazing
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hilarious and is bringing
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me a lot of joy right now i
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know wait wait so are you
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are you wearing that for
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the whole time because that
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might be a problem not the
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whole time uh it's hot i
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can't keep it on my
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face.
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But yeah,
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so this is actually my husband's
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C three PO,
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I wore a BB eight costume this year,
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the year that we wore this and Zane,
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we only had one was a he
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wore a R two D two costume.
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So I just had this like,
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I kind of I can see your
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husband wearing that.
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now has that been so have
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you all used that for like
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have you gone to like a con
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with that thing or is that
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like more like halloween it
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was halloween um we were
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gonna bring it out to cali
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when we went out to a con
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with you but that hasn't
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happened yet that hasn't
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that hasn't happened yet no
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So yeah, friends, so this is our episode.
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We're using the close down this season.
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I, so, you know,
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Sophie and I have a lot to share.
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There's a lot of updates.
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Maybe not so much about the show,
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but like about what we're,
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what we're working on right now.
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Professionally, personally, like there's,
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there's a lot, you know,
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there's a lot going on, but so Sophie,
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you, you've started a new journey.
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professionally personally
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though too i feel like
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there's a definite personal
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connection to that so yeah
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so what are you up to um so
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this uh i've started on
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checking off some bucket
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list well this is sorry
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bucket list um checking is
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what's happening so i have
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started a doctoral program
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And one of the reasons why I
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haven't had started this
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adventure sooner is that I
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didn't think I was capable
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of actually doing it.
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The whole writing a
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dissertation just seemed
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like it was too
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overwhelming and too
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difficult and too much time
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was going to be taken out of
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my personal life in order to pursue that.
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But with the invent of AI,
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I now have that accommodation that I need,
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like, cause I'm ADHD, I'm a mom.
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I also work full time.
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And so I just don't have a
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lot of time to brainstorm
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and process and think
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through things and to edit
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and edit and edit myself.
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So with like Gemini,
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And grammarly,
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those two combos are
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extremely helpful to help
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me process my thinking,
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get it out onto the page,
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and to then edit my work.
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So I am thrilled to be
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adventuring into this doctoral program.
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The other reason why I never
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thought I would do it is because, crap.
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Oh, I didn't know what I wanted to study.
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Because it's like,
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you've got to have a really narrow
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focus, like a focus of study.
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And I just didn't know what
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I wanted to focus on.
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I was like, oh, it'll be escape rooms.
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Oh, it'll be this.
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Oh, it'll be that.
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And I just went through like all these,
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like everything that I was
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like really passionate about at that time,
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just sort of like went through.
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And so I guess what my hyper
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fixation at that point in time was,
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was what I thought I could
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potentially pursue.
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But then that hyper fixation waned.
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But this one hasn't.
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for years now.
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So my doctoral program is
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curriculum and instruction
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with a focus of study and
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instructional leadership.
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And I hope to study
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basically the universal
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design of learning.
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Like what should we be doing
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to help benefit all students?
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And it's been something that
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has been in my mind for a while now.
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Having the boys that I do,
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with them both being people
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with autism and with me
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being like diagnosed ADHD,
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everything that I have
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learned with those two
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paths is very passionate of mine.
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And I'm very, the emotional turmoil,
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the mental turmoil that I
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went through as a child
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should never happen to any child, so.
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i want to help ensure that
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that's that's what i want
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to do yeah i love that i at
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least in my area um if
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you're going that route so
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at the university that i
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teach i think the only
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education pathway to get to
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get that is just leadership
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but not like instructional
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leadership like just
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leadership leadership
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Because I think that's different, right?
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Leading through the admin lens, let's say,
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versus what you're doing,
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like the instructional lens.
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The instructional lens.
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I think that'd be the only
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way I could lead.
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Right?
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This really plays well into my...
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second masters,
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which is instructional
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design and technology.
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And I thought that I was
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going to go into like an ed tech, um,
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masters or doctoral program, but I didn't,
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it wasn't about the technology.
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It's not about the
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technology that you're
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using in the classroom.
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It's about, it's more than that.
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It's about understanding the questioning,
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the empathy.
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It's more,
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there's more than just the tools
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that you're using in your
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classroom to create a whole
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like where you're an
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environment where you're
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teaching the whole child
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and providing them with a safe space.
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So they know what to ask or
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feel like they can ask and
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that they can choose
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without being judged to the today.
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I'm going to listen to this with audio,
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but tomorrow I might not
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and not be judged for using
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the audio because I can read,
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but maybe I just had a bad
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day and I need help focusing.
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Like there's more to it than
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the diagnosis that is.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So and then the UDL part of it, right?
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Like is UDL,
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how prevalent is UDL in West Virginia?
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So in other words,
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how much of a commodity are
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you going to be to help people?
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Well, that's an interesting thing.
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I don't know.
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There wasn't something that
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I learned when I went
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through and I have some
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professors that I'm still
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like friends with.
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And it doesn't seem to be
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something that is very
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prevalent with them.
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I was a coach.
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It doesn't seem to be the
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lingo isn't there like UDL isn't there.
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But the idea of being flexible is.
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in a lot of really good
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teachers' classrooms.
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So I could potentially be a
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really great commodity,
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a good person to lean on,
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an expert in the field.
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But at the same time,
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because I'm from here and
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people already know me,
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I don't know if it'll work.
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You know what I mean?
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Right.
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Yeah, I get that.
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there's other states around you, right?
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I'm always curious about that,
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or I have been for a while,
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because in California,
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UDL is very much a part of our lingo.
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Yeah.
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not for that long though
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like if i talk to some
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teachers to be like oh what
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is that thing again or or
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you know especially if
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they've not been in a
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pre-service program for
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like at least if it's been
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like fifteen years they
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they're probably not as
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first but like part of my
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teacher evaluation for the
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university like one thing i
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have to fill out is how
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they're using udl student
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teachers so it's very much like
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That looks a lot different.
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But I do feel that everyone
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has room to grow in UDL
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because it's a really big umbrella.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's huge.
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Yeah.
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So I love that you're going
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to help us with that.
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There's a lot of ways that
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you can implement it and
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there's a lot of ways that people see it.
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And one of the things that
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I've noticed in some of my
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conversations with Jim and I
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Is that people just think
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that UDL is for students that need it.
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And I'm like, well, yeah,
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but all students need it.
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That's the thing.
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I kind of like my goal,
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my dream is to continue
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research to find those like
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ten things that should be
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embedded in all instruction,
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no matter what.
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And so that's also would be
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like the bigger dream is to
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change curriculum at the core.
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the companies that are
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making these curriculum
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need to embed it in there
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so that teachers don't have
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to do it themselves,
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that it's already there.
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That would be the dream.
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Yeah.
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And also do it in a way
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that, okay, here's what I'm trying to say.
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So like there's, I've seen curriculum.
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I'm not going to say the name.
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Oh, don't do that.
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I have a new camera folks.
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So like stop with the hand gestures.
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For those of you who can't see,
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it just zoomed in on Steve
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because he created a box with his hands.
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In a very, in a very unpleasing way.
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Like you don't need my face that big.
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We don't need to see your pores.
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You don't need to see my pores.
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Okay.
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I was going to say,
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I lost my train of thought.
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So these companies, right?
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Some of them embed project-based learning.
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I've seen it.
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But if you actually look at it, I'm like,
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that's actually not PBL.
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Well, and some of those things...
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that they put in there it's
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just like a little add-on
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you can do in addition to
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and it's not embedded in it
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and that's not what this is
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about um i it needs to
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already be embedded in the
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instruction and teachers
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need to have professional
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development to help them
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understand how to
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facilitate it in such a way
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that students are not
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taking advantage of these things um
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but they're using it because
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like using it purposefully
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just like with AI.
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Um, but yeah,
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so that they're using it when
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they need it and they're
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using it purposefully and
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they're using it to help
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them think deeper and further.
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Um,
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but not necessarily using it like a
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crutch type of thing.
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So, uh, there's,
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and there are teachers that are,
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that will always think, uh,
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Well, they don't actually need.
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That would have been my teachers.
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I didn't need read aloud.
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But by golly,
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that really did help me
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understand what was going on.
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And it saved me so much time.
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And we didn't have read aloud.
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It was my mother recording
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herself reading my honors
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English books over the summer.
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And then I would listen to
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her while I was reading them.
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She was your she was your cammy.
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She was my Cammy.
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She was my little,
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except her voice is not
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nearly as nice as my UK British male.
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Like my British male voice
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is very much more relaxing
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and pleasing to listen to them.
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My voice or my, my mom's voice.
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Not that her voice isn't nice.
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It's just, I hear it all the time.
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It's the voice you've always heard.
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Probably the first voice.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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For real.
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um yeah so that's super cool
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i did a lot of the things
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that i love that you use
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the word embedded like and
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you calling out the add-on
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because you're absolutely
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right like we had like
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inquiry journals that was
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like oh you can do this if
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you want it's at the end so
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i i love the embed piece
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and like have it be
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designed by an actual educator because
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I feel that's the other part
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of the issue too, is these companies,
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big shout out to Kami,
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these companies need to
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lean more into that model
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of bringing in effective
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educators into their space
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to help them solve the
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things for their customers,
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for their clients.
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That's so good.
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And so, Sophie, are you doing,
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are you done like in two years,
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three years?
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Three years.
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So I started in April and
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the first course is a five week term,
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a five week course.
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And it's a lot of let's
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practice using ADA.
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Let's ADA style seventh edition.
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Let's learn the ADA.
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Let's learn how to use your library.
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Let's go on the scavenger hunt.
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um to navigate the library
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and the writing center and
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all the resources that my
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college um provides you
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because this is all online
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right so let's let's learn
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how to do all this stuff
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and so it feels very busy
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worky but being someone
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that has a master's in
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instructional design i
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understand what they're
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doing like i understand
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what they're doing i
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understand the purpose of
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it and while i feel like
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It's busy work for me
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because this is my fourth degree.
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I am also sort of embracing
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it and seeing what I learn.
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And I have learned some
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things about myself.
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And my chats with Jim and I
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have been kind of eye opening.
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And Jim and I has been sweet.
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Sometimes he's like, oh,
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that is some really great
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insight into your why type of thing.
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And he's like, OK, that's great.
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And other times it's like, okay,
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I need more detail.
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And I'm like, okay, cool.
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But what, and I,
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so some people are probably thinking, oh,
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Gemini's just writing her
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paper and that's not what I'm doing.
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I want,
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this is my new strategy with Gemini
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and I really like it a lot.
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I put the assignment,
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I just dumped the
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assignment instructions and
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the rubric into Gemini.
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And of course I've already read it.
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And I've already, I'm like, okay,
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I kind of have an idea of
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what I'm going to do.
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But I'm struggling with even focusing,
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like, how do I even answer this question?
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Like, what angle do I need to go in at?
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So then I asked Jim and I
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create a series of
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questions that you can ask
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me to help me narrow down my focus,
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to help me get what's here
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that is required, and then to also, like,
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sort of expand on it.
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And then it created, like,
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this series of questions.
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And I'm like, okay,
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ask them to me one by one.
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Hmm.
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And then it does.
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And then I answer the
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questions one by one with
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as much or as little detail as I can,
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usually over explaining things.
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So it's like we just needed
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one and you gave me five.
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And I'm like, yeah, well, that's me.
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So and then it helps me narrow down.
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He's like, OK, out of these five,
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which one do you think is the most like,
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can we do these two together?
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Like.
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And he's like, okay, we can do that.
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So we can do it like this.
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Um, and so then, uh,
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it helps me get all of the
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details that I need out of
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me in a chunked way.
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And then it also like, okay,
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based on the information
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that you provided me and the,
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what you've guided me to do,
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here's your outline.
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And I'm like, sweet.
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And then I go from there.
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Oh, and Jim has this new thing.
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I don't know if you saw it's a canvas.
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So I did see that bringing
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in docs inside it.
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So you have the chat on one
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side and like a doc on the other,
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but it's called canvas.
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So then you have like the
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canvas in there and you're
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editing and you're writing, um,
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and tweaking your paper or
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your script or your
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discussion post or whatever
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it is on this side or your
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reply to someone's discussion post.
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Um,
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and you're tweaking and editing and
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doing all of your, um,
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writing on one side but then
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you can ask it to do a
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spell check you can ask it
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to do a grammar check you
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can ask it what tell you
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like a couple conversations
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ago when it was like this
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like i don't remember can
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you tell can you bring that
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information back to me um
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yeah and then it's like
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okay read this paragraph
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and do this and then the
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thing that i really like is
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okay so the um citations
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that when you do a multiple
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citations after you write a sentence
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You have to have them in
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alphabetical order.
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And I'm like, dude,
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they're not alphabetical order.
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Fix them for me.
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And it's like it does all of them.
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So it's saving me so much
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time and it's identifying
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like I know how to use APA
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and I've taken a quiz and
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learned all about it.
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And I actually understand it
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now for the first time.
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So that is something.
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that I've definitely learned
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out of all of my other programs.
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This is the first time I actually am like,
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oh, this makes sense now.
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Instead of some hoop to jump through,
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I actually understand it.
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And Gemini has helped me do
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that to understand the APA
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style of writing and the
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rules and how to structure it and stuff.
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So I just tell Gemini what
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to do to make it, fix it, and it does it.
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The way you put that is
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super good because like,
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I can, if someone's listening right now,
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like maybe someone has the
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thought of like, yeah,
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but now no one's gonna know how to do APA,
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right?
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But I love how you put it,
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be like seeing like how
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it's done and how it's laid out,
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then you actually do learn it.
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Be like, oh, it's set up this way.
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That's what it's supposed to
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look like kind of thing.
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Yeah.
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And just because Jim and I might've,
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But those citations and text
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citations in there doesn't
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mean it's right.
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Like I've had to correct it.
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I've had to.
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And so I still needed to
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know what it was and how to do it.
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And I've had to correct him.
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I'm like, dude,
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you didn't cite that right.
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Fix it.
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And it's like, OK, you're right.
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I didn't do it right.
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So even though a robot is like helping me,
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it is also sort of like
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having that guide on the
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side the entire time
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because I'm not telling it,
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write my paper for me.
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I'm asking it to help me
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with prompts to get me started.
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I'm asking it to help me to
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trigger memories because
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this term is very
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reflective and what
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motivates you and what is your why.
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And it's sort of making this
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practice using,
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because we were using Canvas, the LMS,
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practice using Canvas in a
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variety of ways and to create different,
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like it's just,
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Everything is about
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ourselves to help us connect to it,
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make it a little bit purposeful.
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But also, I get it.
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We are learning how to
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navigate Canvas and our
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resources and learn APA formatting.
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That's the whole point of this.
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And it's not boring because
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it's about ourselves.
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But it also feels like busy
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work because it is just about ourselves.
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And it's not about the
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research I want to do.
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I don't think the world will
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ever allow us to escape busy work.
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I think it'll always be.
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But we now have Gemini.
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We now have Gemini at least
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to make it less daunting.
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But enough about me and my
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world and how it has changed.
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Steve, your world is also changing, right?
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It already has.
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better for worse i'm just
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kidding it yeah so uh i
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just social post i forgot i
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don't know last week yeah
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uh something like that so
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as you know like sophie and
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i um we really don't have
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the star date for when
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sophie and i first met we
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don't we don't have that we
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just kind of always like
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Even before I started working at Kami,
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we just knew each other somehow,
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just on the interwebs.
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Yeah,
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we don't know when we actually found
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each other,
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when we started following each other.
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We have no idea.
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Yeah.
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Again, we don't have the start date.
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Now,
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I've been working there for almost
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three years,
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and I made the decision to
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step away from the company.
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which was not an easy thing to do.
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I feel like the lifestyle of
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ed tech can be,
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can be appealing working from home.
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And it was also like a
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situation where like what
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was healthy for me,
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particularly like mental
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health and also like, you know,
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an opportunity that I feel
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is gonna take a lot of work, but
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I feel like it's like a lot
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of potential and really
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resonates with me.
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So for those that have not heard, seen,
00:23:49.068 --> 00:23:49.348
whatever,
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I did go back to my former
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school district.
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I started this week.
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And it's so if if you really know me,
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you know,
00:24:00.412 --> 00:24:02.232
the former social studies teacher.
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But I came back going back
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into the classroom doing CTE.
00:24:09.784 --> 00:24:11.005
So for those that are not
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familiar with CTE,
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that's career technical education.
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My district, Modesto City Schools has done,
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I feel like a good job of
00:24:20.392 --> 00:24:22.713
like building out CTE in
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the sense of like almost
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every campus has at least a few pathways.
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So there's, you know,
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they have construction, they have floral.
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The school that I'm at has, to my measure,
00:24:35.810 --> 00:24:37.511
a really good ag program.
00:24:38.393 --> 00:24:39.373
They also have a really good
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video program.
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And the individual looking after that,
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he's done like stellar, stellar job.
00:24:47.238 --> 00:24:49.298
My former school had I had
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taught in a forensic bio pathway.
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:53.842
as a core subject teacher
00:24:53.882 --> 00:24:54.763
supporting the pathway.
00:24:55.806 --> 00:24:57.568
They have cybersecurity stuff.
00:24:58.029 --> 00:24:58.912
But this pathway,
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the pathway that I got the call on to do,
00:25:02.679 --> 00:25:03.901
it needs a bit of a rebrand.
00:25:05.270 --> 00:25:06.432
i can talk about that if we
00:25:06.451 --> 00:25:08.914
want but uh it's the
00:25:08.954 --> 00:25:10.817
pathway is future teachers
00:25:11.057 --> 00:25:12.117
so it's an education
00:25:12.157 --> 00:25:14.780
pathway so kids that will
00:25:15.442 --> 00:25:18.305
be able to use their
00:25:18.345 --> 00:25:20.567
passion or their you know
00:25:20.727 --> 00:25:22.127
their interest of working
00:25:22.169 --> 00:25:24.770
with kids or in education
00:25:25.132 --> 00:25:27.314
in whatever context right um
00:25:30.805 --> 00:25:33.711
It's something that is going to be like,
00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:34.393
I'm going to have to build
00:25:34.432 --> 00:25:35.295
it from the ground up.
00:25:37.038 --> 00:25:39.644
That pathway has existed on and off.
00:25:40.346 --> 00:25:41.228
They brought it back.
00:25:41.731 --> 00:25:42.913
the the teacher that was
00:25:42.932 --> 00:25:45.013
looking after that um she
00:25:45.054 --> 00:25:46.255
had she had left kind of
00:25:46.894 --> 00:25:48.056
doing her own journey like
00:25:48.096 --> 00:25:49.576
i'm doing my new journey
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you know as as things go um
00:25:52.857 --> 00:25:54.459
like right now it's it's
00:25:54.479 --> 00:25:56.039
just the intro level class
00:25:56.059 --> 00:25:57.641
with like all the sections
00:25:58.060 --> 00:26:01.462
um enrollment is not great
00:26:01.623 --> 00:26:02.384
but we're gonna work on
00:26:02.423 --> 00:26:03.884
that um that's kind of
00:26:03.904 --> 00:26:05.605
aligned to the the rebrand
00:26:05.625 --> 00:26:09.327
that i have going and yeah i think like
00:26:10.632 --> 00:26:12.074
it's gonna fill my bucket
00:26:12.114 --> 00:26:13.355
more and sophie you and i
00:26:13.375 --> 00:26:15.440
have talked about that like you know
00:26:16.327 --> 00:26:17.327
We don't always,
00:26:18.548 --> 00:26:20.169
we rarely see the impact
00:26:20.189 --> 00:26:22.049
that we have on kids from
00:26:22.089 --> 00:26:23.190
the CAMI vantage point.
00:26:24.190 --> 00:26:24.849
And for some folks,
00:26:24.869 --> 00:26:26.730
they're fine with that.
00:26:28.811 --> 00:26:29.652
You all are still making
00:26:29.672 --> 00:26:33.292
that impact in ed tech, right?
00:26:34.073 --> 00:26:36.173
It was just my time to go
00:26:36.413 --> 00:26:38.794
back into those hallways,
00:26:39.134 --> 00:26:41.035
connect with fellow teachers,
00:26:41.095 --> 00:26:43.096
connect with families, with students.
00:26:45.946 --> 00:26:46.487
And yeah,
00:26:46.507 --> 00:26:48.969
I feel so far it seems like the
00:26:48.989 --> 00:26:49.648
right decision.
00:26:50.108 --> 00:26:52.349
And not to say that I won't
00:26:53.211 --> 00:26:55.771
have a healthy relationship with Cammie.
00:26:56.392 --> 00:26:56.751
I feel,
00:26:57.373 --> 00:26:58.712
Sophie can kind of speak to this maybe,
00:26:58.752 --> 00:27:00.493
but I feel like I left on
00:27:00.673 --> 00:27:01.634
very good terms.
00:27:04.115 --> 00:27:06.497
There were tears throughout
00:27:06.517 --> 00:27:09.439
the process last week, myself included.
00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:14.000
And I will say, though, I will say.
00:27:14.020 --> 00:27:15.721
Monday was hard.
00:27:16.800 --> 00:27:17.902
Monday was probably hard.
00:27:18.001 --> 00:27:18.582
Yeah.
00:27:18.622 --> 00:27:19.702
Monday was hard.
00:27:19.823 --> 00:27:20.824
Yeah.
00:27:20.864 --> 00:27:21.243
Yeah.
00:27:23.046 --> 00:27:25.126
And I think leaving any job,
00:27:25.488 --> 00:27:30.912
the hardest part is leaving the people,
00:27:31.192 --> 00:27:31.412
right?
00:27:31.432 --> 00:27:33.554
The people that you've grown with that,
00:27:33.693 --> 00:27:34.914
that you've, you know,
00:27:35.654 --> 00:27:37.537
sometimes have learned to love.
00:27:39.577 --> 00:27:40.818
That was not Sophie, by the way.
00:27:41.118 --> 00:27:42.621
People you've,
00:27:42.661 --> 00:27:44.362
you've learned from the people you've,
00:27:46.038 --> 00:27:47.519
maybe trauma bonded with,
00:27:47.598 --> 00:27:48.979
maybe joy bonded with.
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.760
There's a lot of, I mean,
00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.300
I've bounced from school to
00:27:54.340 --> 00:27:56.662
school my whole teaching career.
00:27:56.801 --> 00:27:58.163
I've never even stayed in
00:27:58.542 --> 00:28:00.423
one school for more than
00:28:00.542 --> 00:28:02.223
three years because of the
00:28:02.423 --> 00:28:04.085
nature of teaching.
00:28:05.285 --> 00:28:07.066
Until you get that seniority
00:28:07.125 --> 00:28:08.686
in the area that you are in,
00:28:09.287 --> 00:28:10.366
in West Virginia anyways,
00:28:10.386 --> 00:28:12.067
then you don't stay there.
00:28:13.230 --> 00:28:13.589
Um,
00:28:13.789 --> 00:28:16.530
and I have been in a number of schools
00:28:16.570 --> 00:28:17.711
and a number of positions.
00:28:17.892 --> 00:28:20.432
And while I was in a
00:28:20.492 --> 00:28:22.153
position at my last
00:28:22.173 --> 00:28:23.834
district for five and a half years,
00:28:23.993 --> 00:28:24.773
I was at two different
00:28:24.814 --> 00:28:25.714
schools during those five
00:28:25.734 --> 00:28:26.375
and a half years.
00:28:26.494 --> 00:28:28.736
So it's like, um,
00:28:29.155 --> 00:28:30.457
I've never been anywhere
00:28:30.596 --> 00:28:35.178
longer than three years until Kami.
00:28:35.198 --> 00:28:35.337
So Kami.
00:28:43.239 --> 00:28:44.079
But yeah,
00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:46.340
that's what I'm going to be up to.
00:28:46.361 --> 00:28:49.644
All right.
00:28:49.903 --> 00:28:51.464
I got some questions for you.
00:28:51.565 --> 00:28:52.865
Yeah.
00:28:52.885 --> 00:28:54.967
On a scale of one to already
00:28:55.007 --> 00:28:56.407
misplaced my coffee mug,
00:28:56.448 --> 00:29:01.791
how ready do you really feel?
00:29:02.951 --> 00:29:03.653
You've already been in the
00:29:03.692 --> 00:29:05.574
class for like four days, right?
00:29:05.594 --> 00:29:06.213
Because one day was like an
00:29:06.253 --> 00:29:06.775
onboarding day.
00:29:06.795 --> 00:29:07.535
So you've already been back
00:29:07.555 --> 00:29:08.836
in the classroom for like four days.
00:29:09.175 --> 00:29:11.597
So like how ready do you really feel?
00:29:13.131 --> 00:29:16.892
after that one week um so
00:29:17.132 --> 00:29:19.093
there are some aspects of
00:29:19.153 --> 00:29:21.753
it that are like oh it's
00:29:21.773 --> 00:29:26.035
like riding a bike some so
00:29:26.414 --> 00:29:27.174
mind you i'm teaching a
00:29:27.194 --> 00:29:29.635
very different thing so um
00:29:30.215 --> 00:29:31.676
like in terms of like
00:29:33.017 --> 00:29:35.438
connecting with kids inter
00:29:35.498 --> 00:29:37.258
like i don't have and the
00:29:37.378 --> 00:29:38.459
the other part of it is like i'm
00:29:39.692 --> 00:29:40.432
these kids have been with a
00:29:40.594 --> 00:29:42.974
sub for like the entire semester.
00:29:43.595 --> 00:29:44.635
So it's a really weird time
00:29:44.655 --> 00:29:46.836
to jump in and be like, Hey,
00:29:47.176 --> 00:29:48.417
we have a month left together.
00:29:48.877 --> 00:29:49.557
Some are probably going to
00:29:49.577 --> 00:29:50.739
return into the pathways.
00:29:51.398 --> 00:29:52.400
Others are not right.
00:29:53.460 --> 00:29:54.760
Um, so that part, that,
00:29:54.820 --> 00:29:56.241
that part I did know I was
00:29:56.281 --> 00:29:57.702
not prepared for that.
00:29:58.163 --> 00:30:02.144
Um, but like in terms of just like general,
00:30:02.384 --> 00:30:04.605
like pedagogy, like instruction,
00:30:05.527 --> 00:30:07.907
it was just like, I'm like, okay, cool.
00:30:08.924 --> 00:30:10.846
y'all gonna learn a thick slide right now,
00:30:11.406 --> 00:30:11.926
sweet.
00:30:12.567 --> 00:30:13.627
Get up on a GIM kit,
00:30:13.788 --> 00:30:14.627
we're doing some fast and
00:30:14.647 --> 00:30:16.088
curious and then they like
00:30:16.108 --> 00:30:18.030
teach them how to look at just low key,
00:30:18.090 --> 00:30:19.211
not like Sophie level,
00:30:19.270 --> 00:30:22.353
but like analyze some data, right?
00:30:23.453 --> 00:30:26.855
And then, you know, studying procedures,
00:30:28.797 --> 00:30:30.337
conferencing with students.
00:30:30.837 --> 00:30:32.298
I spent the whole day yesterday,
00:30:32.358 --> 00:30:34.901
like one by one meeting with kids.
00:30:35.952 --> 00:30:37.596
Which since the pathway,
00:30:37.675 --> 00:30:38.978
the enrollment is low,
00:30:39.278 --> 00:30:40.580
the good thing right now is
00:30:40.701 --> 00:30:41.663
I have the bandwidth to
00:30:41.742 --> 00:30:44.047
meet with them on an individual basis,
00:30:45.067 --> 00:30:47.532
which was a little new for them.
00:30:48.545 --> 00:30:49.826
um and i can talk a little
00:30:49.865 --> 00:30:51.446
bit more about that uh but
00:30:52.688 --> 00:30:55.289
so like that part of it uh
00:30:55.309 --> 00:30:56.611
the the lesson plant the
00:30:56.651 --> 00:30:59.113
lesson plan part of it it
00:30:59.153 --> 00:31:00.674
felt like riding a bike
00:31:00.914 --> 00:31:02.175
like it was like okay cool
00:31:02.675 --> 00:31:03.817
the one layer this week
00:31:03.856 --> 00:31:04.958
though was like oh wait
00:31:05.077 --> 00:31:06.219
last time i did this i
00:31:06.239 --> 00:31:08.299
didn't have ai and now i do
00:31:09.201 --> 00:31:11.623
uh gemini what are we doing
00:31:11.643 --> 00:31:13.284
today not really but like i
00:31:13.304 --> 00:31:15.145
would i would have her do some things
00:31:18.270 --> 00:31:21.172
Things that I feel that I'm
00:31:21.291 --> 00:31:22.333
not prepared for.
00:31:22.692 --> 00:31:25.734
So even though I do have a
00:31:25.775 --> 00:31:27.035
little bit of CTE
00:31:27.115 --> 00:31:28.615
experience in the sense of
00:31:28.736 --> 00:31:29.997
teaching in a California
00:31:30.037 --> 00:31:31.017
Partnership Academy,
00:31:32.218 --> 00:31:35.278
I was not the lead CTE teacher.
00:31:35.298 --> 00:31:38.259
This time around, I am.
00:31:38.760 --> 00:31:43.262
And so the curriculum...
00:31:44.223 --> 00:31:46.164
uh like the book they have
00:31:46.525 --> 00:31:48.085
it's really solid book it's
00:31:48.125 --> 00:31:51.125
just like way dense like so
00:31:51.726 --> 00:31:52.727
over the summer we're gonna
00:31:52.747 --> 00:31:53.926
do a lot of like
00:31:54.467 --> 00:31:56.327
investigating growing me
00:31:56.367 --> 00:31:57.548
reaching out for help with
00:31:57.627 --> 00:31:59.209
others i'm like okay cool
00:31:59.249 --> 00:32:00.729
how are we how are we gonna
00:32:00.788 --> 00:32:04.651
scaffold this out um cte is
00:32:04.730 --> 00:32:06.250
more flexible so it's not
00:32:06.290 --> 00:32:07.672
like you're teaching world
00:32:07.711 --> 00:32:09.751
history and you have here
00:32:09.852 --> 00:32:11.173
all the big picture things
00:32:11.192 --> 00:32:11.952
that you gotta hit
00:32:13.242 --> 00:32:14.663
You can move things around.
00:32:16.804 --> 00:32:19.384
You can bring in different
00:32:19.465 --> 00:32:22.787
things that I think they
00:32:22.826 --> 00:32:23.906
weren't thinking of and
00:32:23.946 --> 00:32:26.567
that I still need to ponder on more.
00:32:27.328 --> 00:32:28.608
So right now,
00:32:29.088 --> 00:32:31.069
the district has that pathway
00:32:31.830 --> 00:32:33.951
very branded,
00:32:34.811 --> 00:32:37.192
laser focused on the child
00:32:37.232 --> 00:32:38.252
development piece.
00:32:39.232 --> 00:32:41.775
It's like almost like exclusively like, oh,
00:32:41.795 --> 00:32:42.875
that's child development.
00:32:44.232 --> 00:32:45.894
And I went in this week,
00:32:46.433 --> 00:32:48.276
and just as a reminder to everyone,
00:32:48.296 --> 00:32:48.596
I'm like,
00:32:48.816 --> 00:32:50.557
it doesn't have to be just child
00:32:50.576 --> 00:32:52.718
development.
00:32:52.798 --> 00:32:54.578
It can be education broadly.
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.182
And what that means now, no.
00:32:59.903 --> 00:33:00.303
Thank you.
00:33:01.163 --> 00:33:02.444
What that means now, sorry,
00:33:02.525 --> 00:33:03.266
I zoomed in again,
00:33:04.727 --> 00:33:07.468
is that there's like this giant ecosystem,
00:33:07.929 --> 00:33:10.369
right, of there's ed tech,
00:33:10.810 --> 00:33:12.451
there is curriculum writing,
00:33:12.832 --> 00:33:16.255
there is course design for industry.
00:33:16.434 --> 00:33:17.474
So you don't have to like
00:33:17.596 --> 00:33:19.936
commit to being in
00:33:20.116 --> 00:33:21.718
education and get certified
00:33:21.738 --> 00:33:22.618
and get credentialed.
00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:24.519
All these skills,
00:33:25.020 --> 00:33:27.762
we can align it more closely to industry,
00:33:27.803 --> 00:33:28.843
let's say, right?
00:33:30.221 --> 00:33:30.942
And just talking with
00:33:30.982 --> 00:33:32.846
administrators and even at
00:33:32.865 --> 00:33:36.111
the district level, they're like, yeah,
00:33:36.352 --> 00:33:38.134
Steve, you go do that.
00:33:38.736 --> 00:33:40.157
But there's a lot,
00:33:40.278 --> 00:33:42.662
there's going to be like, I feel like,
00:33:43.775 --> 00:33:44.855
gonna be a lot of growth and
00:33:44.875 --> 00:33:45.615
it's gonna take a lot of
00:33:45.654 --> 00:33:49.875
time to get it to where i i
00:33:49.955 --> 00:33:51.777
know where i want it to be
00:33:51.797 --> 00:33:52.797
like i have a vision for it
00:33:52.896 --> 00:33:53.896
but in terms of how to get
00:33:53.936 --> 00:33:57.137
there um there's i'm gonna
00:33:57.157 --> 00:33:58.298
be needing a lot of help
00:33:58.719 --> 00:33:59.538
people that have already
00:33:59.598 --> 00:34:01.558
committed to helping me you
00:34:01.578 --> 00:34:03.039
know just within my network
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.420
um so i think like the cte
00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:08.701
part of it is where i'm
00:34:08.721 --> 00:34:11.141
like we have we have
00:34:11.181 --> 00:34:12.282
learning to do and we have
00:34:12.322 --> 00:34:13.222
growth to do but
00:34:13.914 --> 00:34:15.195
the kids have the kids need
00:34:15.215 --> 00:34:16.655
that too so it's almost
00:34:16.675 --> 00:34:17.376
like building that
00:34:18.137 --> 00:34:19.677
classroom community of
00:34:20.438 --> 00:34:21.498
building it but then also
00:34:21.539 --> 00:34:23.621
having our own voice and
00:34:23.641 --> 00:34:24.981
letting them have voice of
00:34:25.041 --> 00:34:26.143
how we build it and
00:34:26.182 --> 00:34:27.023
building that culture
00:34:27.123 --> 00:34:32.427
together that's cool yeah
00:34:32.487 --> 00:34:39.032
next question be honest did
00:34:39.072 --> 00:34:40.072
you practice your teacher
00:34:40.112 --> 00:34:41.693
voice before you went back
00:34:42.554 --> 00:34:43.474
oh i actually did not
00:34:43.958 --> 00:34:45.880
No, though.
00:34:46.141 --> 00:34:47.603
I remember you actually did
00:34:47.623 --> 00:34:49.465
a polo to me and you were like, man,
00:34:49.485 --> 00:34:51.467
I'm tired of talking.
00:34:51.786 --> 00:34:53.168
Yeah.
00:34:53.188 --> 00:34:54.730
Or like your voice was like
00:34:55.070 --> 00:34:56.371
your throat was scratchy or
00:34:56.391 --> 00:34:57.594
something because you talked a lot.
00:34:58.534 --> 00:34:59.956
So I remember going through
00:34:59.976 --> 00:35:02.398
this at the start of every school year.
00:35:03.501 --> 00:35:04.822
before i got to cami like
00:35:04.862 --> 00:35:05.764
when i was originally in
00:35:05.784 --> 00:35:08.706
the classroom because um
00:35:09.266 --> 00:35:10.467
what was happening is like
00:35:10.867 --> 00:35:12.929
the beginning of the year
00:35:12.949 --> 00:35:14.110
like the first week i would
00:35:14.150 --> 00:35:15.170
have like i feel like i was
00:35:15.190 --> 00:35:16.451
losing my voice for a day
00:35:16.831 --> 00:35:18.273
and then it just went away
00:35:18.552 --> 00:35:19.813
like almost like my throat
00:35:19.873 --> 00:35:22.275
needed to like just build a
00:35:22.335 --> 00:35:24.137
callus or work out exactly
00:35:24.157 --> 00:35:25.057
what i was getting ready to
00:35:25.077 --> 00:35:26.739
say like it just needed that callus
00:35:27.369 --> 00:35:28.789
Yeah.
00:35:28.949 --> 00:35:30.389
Working at CAMI, like you have a mic,
00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:31.391
you don't really need to
00:35:31.570 --> 00:35:32.411
raise your voice.
00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:33.972
Like it's, you don't,
00:35:34.751 --> 00:35:35.831
look at this little tiny room.
00:35:37.572 --> 00:35:38.012
But yeah.
00:35:38.072 --> 00:35:38.954
There are tools out there.
00:35:38.974 --> 00:35:41.313
There are tools out there.
00:35:42.974 --> 00:35:43.534
There are.
00:35:43.934 --> 00:35:47.077
You don't have to raise your voice.
00:35:47.097 --> 00:35:50.617
But yeah,
00:35:50.657 --> 00:35:52.099
it was fine after the first day
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:52.978
of me like being in.
00:35:52.998 --> 00:35:53.559
So that would have been
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:55.380
after Tuesday of this week.
00:35:57.478 --> 00:35:58.577
no i did not practice the
00:35:58.597 --> 00:36:01.639
teacher voice see i feel
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:03.500
like my immune system has
00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:06.021
gotten like back like i
00:36:06.061 --> 00:36:07.440
haven't been bombarding it
00:36:07.501 --> 00:36:10.222
with children germs for
00:36:10.242 --> 00:36:11.802
three years now that if i
00:36:11.822 --> 00:36:12.322
went back into the
00:36:12.362 --> 00:36:13.302
classroom i would just be
00:36:13.422 --> 00:36:16.384
sick like that's all i
00:36:17.563 --> 00:36:18.764
would do yeah we'll see uh
00:36:19.385 --> 00:36:20.505
that that will probably hit
00:36:20.545 --> 00:36:22.826
me at at some point um
00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:24.978
Again,
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.139
I think having the smaller class sizes,
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:29.521
I think that helps.
00:36:29.701 --> 00:36:33.663
And it's a pretty good-sized classroom.
00:36:35.903 --> 00:36:37.364
I think there's enough space
00:36:37.423 --> 00:36:39.164
where I'll be okay for a little bit,
00:36:39.244 --> 00:36:41.166
but no promises.
00:36:42.686 --> 00:36:44.987
Here's a random question.
00:36:45.108 --> 00:36:46.927
If your time away from the
00:36:46.967 --> 00:36:49.929
classroom was a flavor of ice cream,
00:36:50.269 --> 00:36:50.789
what would it be?
00:36:55.248 --> 00:37:04.132
A flavor of ice cream.
00:37:04.251 --> 00:37:07.494
I'm going to say... I'm
00:37:07.514 --> 00:37:08.594
going to say vanilla.
00:37:08.614 --> 00:37:08.753
Ouch!
00:37:12.596 --> 00:37:13.556
No, no, no, no.
00:37:13.655 --> 00:37:14.097
Hold on.
00:37:14.376 --> 00:37:14.976
Hear me out.
00:37:15.677 --> 00:37:16.978
Just hear me out here.
00:37:17.938 --> 00:37:19.318
I say vanilla because...
00:37:20.538 --> 00:37:22.360
you're in the classroom it
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.942
feels like a swirly storm
00:37:26.342 --> 00:37:27.804
of things that you have to
00:37:27.864 --> 00:37:33.068
navigate right so an
00:37:33.168 --> 00:37:34.128
opposite flavor is not
00:37:34.188 --> 00:37:35.570
coming to mind but like you
00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:36.351
know what i mean like the
00:37:36.371 --> 00:37:37.331
flavor has like a lot of
00:37:37.371 --> 00:37:38.172
different things like maybe
00:37:38.192 --> 00:37:39.052
there's like chocolate
00:37:39.072 --> 00:37:39.873
maybe there's like brownie
00:37:39.893 --> 00:37:40.673
in there maybe there's like
00:37:41.215 --> 00:37:43.315
whatever like a rocky road
00:37:43.335 --> 00:37:44.476
the rocky road there you
00:37:44.496 --> 00:37:45.998
have the nuts you have the
00:37:46.139 --> 00:37:49.782
little marshmallows the chocolate yeah um
00:37:50.722 --> 00:37:53.262
So there's, it just,
00:37:53.623 --> 00:37:54.443
and I kind of felt that
00:37:54.503 --> 00:37:56.164
this week where it wasn't crazy,
00:37:56.224 --> 00:37:56.864
but there's like,
00:37:57.603 --> 00:37:59.764
it just feels like there is.
00:37:59.784 --> 00:38:02.724
And when I say more to navigate,
00:38:02.784 --> 00:38:05.085
it's not just the work itself,
00:38:05.925 --> 00:38:08.085
but then like people coming into my room,
00:38:08.306 --> 00:38:09.806
meeting me for the first time,
00:38:11.967 --> 00:38:13.467
reconnecting with old friends,
00:38:13.507 --> 00:38:14.246
since it is my,
00:38:14.467 --> 00:38:15.987
my former district that just feels,
00:38:16.567 --> 00:38:18.628
it does feel busier than
00:38:18.807 --> 00:38:20.007
the work from home life.
00:38:20.565 --> 00:38:21.547
So like my time off,
00:38:21.567 --> 00:38:23.628
like I felt like I got to
00:38:24.548 --> 00:38:27.230
live a life that was like a
00:38:27.309 --> 00:38:30.092
little bit more relaxing,
00:38:30.112 --> 00:38:31.572
a little bit more.
00:38:32.853 --> 00:38:35.195
How do I say it?
00:38:35.275 --> 00:38:36.775
Like it was just less
00:38:36.815 --> 00:38:39.458
chaotic and not to say that it's not.
00:38:40.177 --> 00:38:40.418
Yeah.
00:38:40.697 --> 00:38:42.500
Not to say that it's not chaotic.
00:38:42.780 --> 00:38:43.079
Yeah.
00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:44.960
You've said that to me even before.
00:38:45.601 --> 00:38:47.081
I think it was even more than a year ago.
00:38:47.121 --> 00:38:47.563
You were like,
00:38:47.583 --> 00:38:49.463
I just don't feel stimulated enough.
00:38:51.126 --> 00:38:51.427
Yeah,
00:38:51.487 --> 00:38:52.987
and sometimes there is
00:38:53.148 --> 00:38:54.768
overstimulation for me.
00:38:54.789 --> 00:38:56.009
Oh, yeah.
00:38:56.088 --> 00:38:58.369
And I'm probably not closing
00:38:58.409 --> 00:38:59.231
down this school year,
00:38:59.271 --> 00:39:00.690
but next school year, yeah,
00:39:01.271 --> 00:39:02.092
there's going to be that.
00:39:03.652 --> 00:39:06.094
But when you work for a company,
00:39:07.693 --> 00:39:08.974
any education company,
00:39:09.394 --> 00:39:10.135
educational company,
00:39:11.215 --> 00:39:13.677
it's a lot of showing
00:39:13.737 --> 00:39:16.257
people how your product,
00:39:16.398 --> 00:39:18.619
how your solution is
00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:20.500
solving some sort of problem.
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.561
if you're an educator and
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.081
let's say you do have a
00:39:26.141 --> 00:39:29.041
very talented brain like
00:39:29.121 --> 00:39:32.322
sophie uh does sophie
00:39:32.543 --> 00:39:36.143
always use the depth and
00:39:36.204 --> 00:39:37.425
wealth of knowledge uh
00:39:41.106 --> 00:39:43.146
broadly speaking within the
00:39:43.186 --> 00:39:46.708
entire educational conversation so like
00:39:48.108 --> 00:39:48.489
Sophie,
00:39:49.150 --> 00:39:52.070
you may at times be talking about UDL.
00:39:52.771 --> 00:39:53.911
You might be at times
00:39:53.952 --> 00:39:55.112
talking about escape rooms,
00:39:55.132 --> 00:39:57.293
about accessibility,
00:39:58.034 --> 00:39:58.835
when you're doing that
00:39:58.875 --> 00:40:01.657
customer-facing conversations, demoing,
00:40:02.436 --> 00:40:03.737
professional learning, right?
00:40:05.378 --> 00:40:07.960
But are you always applying it?
00:40:08.061 --> 00:40:09.541
And so for me,
00:40:11.208 --> 00:40:13.389
was the lack of application
00:40:13.809 --> 00:40:15.710
with this knowledge that
00:40:15.869 --> 00:40:17.150
that i have the skills that
00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:19.911
i think that i that i
00:40:19.952 --> 00:40:21.791
obtain and then are you
00:40:21.831 --> 00:40:23.532
obtaining new skills right
00:40:23.592 --> 00:40:25.213
and learning new things by
00:40:25.313 --> 00:40:26.534
actually because you do
00:40:26.574 --> 00:40:28.153
learn by crying the things
00:40:28.213 --> 00:40:29.715
out with the kids and be
00:40:29.735 --> 00:40:31.074
like oh that worked that
00:40:31.094 --> 00:40:32.135
did not work and i
00:40:32.155 --> 00:40:33.635
experienced that this week be like oh
00:40:34.422 --> 00:40:35.983
These things I did at my
00:40:36.023 --> 00:40:37.905
former school are not going to work here.
00:40:38.467 --> 00:40:40.027
And so that to me is
00:40:40.108 --> 00:40:41.588
stimulating and problem
00:40:41.648 --> 00:40:43.150
solving all of those things.
00:40:44.251 --> 00:40:45.432
I think like, yeah, like the,
00:40:45.452 --> 00:40:47.675
like the application of,
00:40:48.195 --> 00:40:49.436
of the things that we,
00:40:49.456 --> 00:40:50.396
that you all are talking
00:40:50.416 --> 00:40:52.759
about at CAMI every day kind of gets,
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:54.800
it's on the bench right now.
00:40:55.302 --> 00:40:55.601
If you're,
00:40:55.762 --> 00:40:57.824
if you're in that space and I
00:40:57.844 --> 00:40:58.603
was ready to go back.
00:40:58.623 --> 00:41:01.387
You get to watch other people.
00:41:01.782 --> 00:41:02.804
from like the sidelines
00:41:02.884 --> 00:41:04.766
apply those things when
00:41:04.806 --> 00:41:05.827
you're at a company,
00:41:05.847 --> 00:41:07.108
you're not really doing it yourself.
00:41:07.608 --> 00:41:08.710
Even when I was a coach,
00:41:09.170 --> 00:41:09.891
I would even go in and
00:41:09.911 --> 00:41:11.313
co-teach so that I would
00:41:11.373 --> 00:41:12.594
get to apply some of those
00:41:12.614 --> 00:41:14.896
things every now and then here and there.
00:41:15.257 --> 00:41:17.798
Um, but when you're at any company,
00:41:18.340 --> 00:41:21.623
whether it's curriculum or whatever it,
00:41:22.664 --> 00:41:24.867
you get to you're on the side.
00:41:24.967 --> 00:41:25.146
Yeah.
00:41:29.197 --> 00:41:31.219
Could you stop making that, like,
00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:36.583
it's not making a good, dude.
00:41:36.603 --> 00:41:36.844
I'm done now.
00:41:36.864 --> 00:41:40.146
I know sign language.
00:41:40.246 --> 00:41:41.067
I know sign language.
00:41:41.387 --> 00:41:42.507
You can stop doing that now.
00:41:43.568 --> 00:41:53.175
Oh, my gosh.
00:41:59.628 --> 00:42:02.509
One note about that to wrap
00:42:02.548 --> 00:42:06.250
up that last question is at CAMI,
00:42:07.570 --> 00:42:07.990
you're right.
00:42:08.530 --> 00:42:09.550
You kind of just hear about
00:42:09.570 --> 00:42:10.271
the application.
00:42:11.411 --> 00:42:13.172
You rarely, no,
00:42:13.231 --> 00:42:15.253
I would say never actually
00:42:15.413 --> 00:42:19.454
see if it's being effective or not.
00:42:20.795 --> 00:42:22.315
CAMI gets little glimpses
00:42:22.355 --> 00:42:24.356
with case studies and
00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:27.521
their research that they,
00:42:27.681 --> 00:42:28.960
that they pay for and like,
00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:31.362
and hearing stories from
00:42:31.742 --> 00:42:33.342
teachers and what they did and what they,
00:42:33.382 --> 00:42:35.202
and like,
00:42:35.264 --> 00:42:38.025
and then I have my own where
00:42:38.264 --> 00:42:39.405
experiences of using it in,
00:42:39.784 --> 00:42:42.346
in my classroom three years
00:42:42.445 --> 00:42:43.606
or more than three years ago,
00:42:43.626 --> 00:42:44.606
it was like eight, eight,
00:42:44.666 --> 00:42:45.608
nine years ago now.
00:42:45.668 --> 00:42:46.527
But then I also have my
00:42:46.547 --> 00:42:47.327
stories from when I was a
00:42:47.347 --> 00:42:49.969
coach three years ago, but yeah, it's,
00:42:52.230 --> 00:42:54.451
it's not the same as like doing it.
00:42:55.358 --> 00:42:56.059
And doing your own
00:42:56.099 --> 00:42:57.440
reflection and doing it
00:42:57.460 --> 00:42:58.400
yourself and doing your own
00:42:58.440 --> 00:42:59.402
reflection and doing your
00:42:59.561 --> 00:43:01.043
own critical thinking and
00:43:01.083 --> 00:43:03.065
problem solving about what went wrong.
00:43:03.264 --> 00:43:04.206
Was it me?
00:43:05.206 --> 00:43:06.626
Was it the way I set it up?
00:43:07.347 --> 00:43:10.590
Was it the way that we closed it up?
00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:14.393
Was it just a bad idea?
00:43:14.813 --> 00:43:15.514
Did I not...
00:43:17.036 --> 00:43:18.456
prepare the kids enough
00:43:18.536 --> 00:43:20.057
before we did this idea?
00:43:20.157 --> 00:43:22.000
Like, what was it type of thing?
00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:23.340
And that was something that
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.262
me being like a total data geek,
00:43:25.862 --> 00:43:27.563
I enjoyed experimenting and
00:43:27.643 --> 00:43:30.244
I enjoyed seeing what was
00:43:30.264 --> 00:43:30.844
going to work and what
00:43:30.885 --> 00:43:31.746
wasn't going to work.
00:43:32.405 --> 00:43:34.186
And I enjoyed having like,
00:43:34.547 --> 00:43:35.588
let's analyze the data and
00:43:35.628 --> 00:43:38.289
find out which standard was not the best,
00:43:38.389 --> 00:43:40.771
like scoring one and figure
00:43:40.931 --> 00:43:42.193
out all these different
00:43:42.213 --> 00:43:43.172
ways that you can actually
00:43:43.213 --> 00:43:44.474
present it differently next year.
00:43:45.226 --> 00:43:45.726
Um,
00:43:45.786 --> 00:43:47.806
and I was good at it because my scores
00:43:47.827 --> 00:43:48.867
always went up for that standard.
00:43:49.128 --> 00:43:51.909
But, um, it,
00:43:51.949 --> 00:43:56.632
that type of validation and
00:43:57.711 --> 00:43:59.934
happy feeling isn't,
00:44:00.353 --> 00:44:01.793
isn't there as often and it
00:44:01.833 --> 00:44:06.356
isn't there via like direct.
00:44:06.476 --> 00:44:07.077
It's not direct.
00:44:07.237 --> 00:44:08.438
It's always like an on the
00:44:08.498 --> 00:44:10.918
side indirect situation with us.
00:44:10.978 --> 00:44:12.039
And I get to hear it from
00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:13.500
other people about what's
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:14.400
happening in their lives.
00:44:14.420 --> 00:44:14.721
However,
00:44:17.974 --> 00:44:19.454
I also have a very unique
00:44:19.675 --> 00:44:22.036
position at Kami where I'm
00:44:22.076 --> 00:44:24.157
training people.
00:44:24.336 --> 00:44:29.257
So I do sometimes get to see
00:44:29.297 --> 00:44:32.498
that where I am teaching the adults,
00:44:32.539 --> 00:44:33.900
my coworkers, my peers,
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.260
I'm teaching and providing
00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:36.661
them with the support that they need.
00:44:36.681 --> 00:44:38.360
So I do get to see that sometimes.
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:39.902
And I have over the three
00:44:39.922 --> 00:44:44.722
years seen some people really grow and
00:44:45.585 --> 00:44:47.327
become leaders themselves
00:44:48.246 --> 00:44:50.867
and to become people that others are like,
00:44:51.088 --> 00:44:51.288
oh,
00:44:51.367 --> 00:44:52.527
so and so really knows what they're
00:44:52.547 --> 00:44:52.827
doing.
00:44:52.867 --> 00:44:53.829
You could go to them to lean
00:44:53.869 --> 00:44:54.548
on and support.
00:44:56.750 --> 00:44:57.650
And it's.
00:44:58.951 --> 00:45:00.590
That does give me warm pussies.
00:45:02.411 --> 00:45:04.192
So.
00:45:04.211 --> 00:45:04.592
You're right,
00:45:04.952 --> 00:45:08.074
I. And I do love that for you,
00:45:08.434 --> 00:45:10.713
where you can see human growth.
00:45:14.436 --> 00:45:16.557
within you know the confines
00:45:16.619 --> 00:45:18.760
of of of cami itself that
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.422
no that's yeah i didn't
00:45:21.461 --> 00:45:26.025
have that uh you didn't no
00:45:26.065 --> 00:45:30.088
but my hope is that my
00:45:30.288 --> 00:45:31.768
bucket and i felt this way
00:45:31.809 --> 00:45:33.030
this week i'm like my
00:45:33.070 --> 00:45:34.610
bucket feels fuller this
00:45:34.650 --> 00:45:38.693
week i just i did have like
00:45:38.733 --> 00:45:40.655
talking with talking with
00:45:40.735 --> 00:45:42.936
my new colleagues now some
00:45:42.956 --> 00:45:43.556
of them knew me
00:45:44.949 --> 00:45:46.048
already be like oh you're
00:45:46.068 --> 00:45:48.269
steve we know you and then
00:45:48.409 --> 00:45:49.730
others were like oh nice to
00:45:49.750 --> 00:45:50.650
meet you blah blah and
00:45:50.670 --> 00:45:52.170
they're like what school do
00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:52.971
you come from because they
00:45:52.990 --> 00:45:54.552
kind of heard i i came from
00:45:54.592 --> 00:45:56.431
edessa city and i was like
00:45:56.452 --> 00:45:58.032
oh yeah i you know i used
00:45:58.052 --> 00:45:59.032
to teach at this other
00:45:59.072 --> 00:46:00.853
school other side of town
00:46:01.673 --> 00:46:03.094
um and i was like oh yeah
00:46:03.114 --> 00:46:03.813
but i did cammy for the
00:46:03.833 --> 00:46:05.114
last few years like what
00:46:05.735 --> 00:46:06.715
like it's almost like this
00:46:06.755 --> 00:46:08.655
like like it turns heads or
00:46:08.675 --> 00:46:10.416
like and then i get to
00:46:10.456 --> 00:46:11.775
share a little bit of my
00:46:11.856 --> 00:46:14.157
story in that journey um
00:46:16.623 --> 00:46:17.824
it's that filled my bucket
00:46:17.844 --> 00:46:19.244
just like being in the same
00:46:19.284 --> 00:46:21.106
room in person like anytime
00:46:21.126 --> 00:46:22.246
we're in person it had to
00:46:22.266 --> 00:46:23.206
be a conference it had to
00:46:23.246 --> 00:46:25.007
be a queue or an isti uh
00:46:26.568 --> 00:46:28.010
but then also like what
00:46:28.030 --> 00:46:29.090
also filled my bucket is
00:46:29.130 --> 00:46:31.472
like you know i went in
00:46:31.572 --> 00:46:33.012
straight in like student
00:46:33.052 --> 00:46:35.353
center type of things like
00:46:36.275 --> 00:46:37.534
and just hearing the kids
00:46:37.574 --> 00:46:41.438
be like wait this this
00:46:41.458 --> 00:46:42.958
could be fun or this
00:46:44.248 --> 00:46:46.190
like there was a kid that
00:46:46.371 --> 00:46:48.673
was like wait this is
00:46:48.733 --> 00:46:53.838
engaging oh and it's hard
00:46:53.878 --> 00:46:54.699
too when you have like a
00:46:54.780 --> 00:46:57.362
sub in there um and they're
00:46:57.382 --> 00:46:59.545
just they might not have
00:46:59.704 --> 00:47:01.367
any experience whatsoever
00:47:02.047 --> 00:47:04.329
um they might not even have
00:47:04.349 --> 00:47:05.510
uh depending on
00:47:06.038 --> 00:47:07.139
The subs in California,
00:47:07.179 --> 00:47:08.059
there are times in West
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.121
Virginia where they went
00:47:09.141 --> 00:47:10.722
like an alternative route
00:47:10.782 --> 00:47:12.063
to get like a teaching
00:47:12.103 --> 00:47:13.925
license so that they don't
00:47:13.965 --> 00:47:15.286
actually have an education degree.
00:47:15.306 --> 00:47:16.027
And they're just in there
00:47:16.047 --> 00:47:18.871
like learning as they go
00:47:18.911 --> 00:47:20.211
and like being mentored and stuff.
00:47:20.251 --> 00:47:21.893
So like you can have someone
00:47:21.934 --> 00:47:23.454
in there that has no like
00:47:23.474 --> 00:47:24.737
you're doing child development.
00:47:25.532 --> 00:47:26.913
which I find surprising and funny.
00:47:27.873 --> 00:47:29.134
But like you're doing child development,
00:47:29.153 --> 00:47:30.394
maybe they have no clue either.
00:47:30.474 --> 00:47:31.454
So you're just sort of going
00:47:31.474 --> 00:47:33.135
through the motions.
00:47:34.516 --> 00:47:34.976
I do love,
00:47:34.996 --> 00:47:35.998
like you sent me a picture of
00:47:36.018 --> 00:47:38.239
your classroom and I was like, dude,
00:47:38.259 --> 00:47:39.800
you did not decorate that room.
00:47:39.860 --> 00:47:40.681
Who left that for you?
00:47:43.088 --> 00:47:43.889
I was going to be like,
00:47:44.170 --> 00:47:45.490
I will take this credit for
00:47:45.530 --> 00:47:46.592
as long as possible,
00:47:46.753 --> 00:47:48.373
which when I say long,
00:47:48.514 --> 00:47:50.735
it was like three seconds.
00:47:51.677 --> 00:47:52.378
Oh, yeah.
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.021
She just texts back.
00:47:55.041 --> 00:47:58.364
She's like, you did not do that.
00:47:59.344 --> 00:48:00.246
I'm like, no, I did not.
00:48:00.266 --> 00:48:01.005
It's cute, though, right?
00:48:01.025 --> 00:48:01.306
I know you.
00:48:01.327 --> 00:48:01.847
It is cute.
00:48:02.027 --> 00:48:04.469
It's not what I would do, but it is cute.
00:48:05.315 --> 00:48:07.416
It's cute.
00:48:07.577 --> 00:48:08.436
So there's a big banner
00:48:08.476 --> 00:48:10.018
thing that I have to tear
00:48:10.038 --> 00:48:11.759
down because that banner
00:48:11.778 --> 00:48:13.599
thing is covering a whole
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:14.800
wall of whiteboard.
00:48:16.141 --> 00:48:18.702
And you know me, I'm like, dude,
00:48:19.702 --> 00:48:22.603
I need that for some ideation.
00:48:22.623 --> 00:48:22.724
Yeah,
00:48:22.744 --> 00:48:23.686
your kids are going
00:48:23.686 --> 00:48:24.721
Anyway, so Sophie,
00:48:25.101 --> 00:48:25.741
I know you have another
00:48:25.781 --> 00:48:29.283
question and we are coming up on time.
00:48:30.913 --> 00:48:31.473
We are.
00:48:33.054 --> 00:48:34.455
I asked Gemini for tin.
00:48:37.277 --> 00:48:38.417
How you feeling with like
00:48:38.437 --> 00:48:39.798
the retraining your bladder
00:48:39.818 --> 00:48:41.179
with like the no pee breaks?
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.340
Cool.
00:48:44.821 --> 00:48:45.521
This is like the most
00:48:45.561 --> 00:48:46.662
important question here.
00:48:47.802 --> 00:48:50.344
So Sophie knows me that I, you know,
00:48:51.704 --> 00:48:53.025
I drink a lot of coffee.
00:48:53.365 --> 00:48:57.468
I drink a lot of coffee.
00:48:57.588 --> 00:48:59.709
So I'm not eating.
00:49:01.141 --> 00:49:02.782
or drinking coffee while I'm at work.
00:49:04.604 --> 00:49:05.825
I made an effort.
00:49:05.925 --> 00:49:07.506
So those,
00:49:08.226 --> 00:49:08.927
you probably don't know this
00:49:08.967 --> 00:49:09.768
about me if you're
00:49:09.808 --> 00:49:11.229
listening in the car or whatever,
00:49:11.429 --> 00:49:15.692
but I've been on a health journey,
00:49:16.012 --> 00:49:17.333
a mental health journey,
00:49:17.694 --> 00:49:19.275
both mental and physical, right?
00:49:19.775 --> 00:49:21.356
And so what I was doing for a while- Yeah,
00:49:21.377 --> 00:49:22.617
you've lost weight and beard.
00:49:22.838 --> 00:49:23.438
You've lost weight and beard.
00:49:23.538 --> 00:49:26.160
Lost, my beard has lost weight.
00:49:27.101 --> 00:49:28.702
We were both on this journey together.
00:49:31.704 --> 00:49:35.266
and so what what i was doing
00:49:35.306 --> 00:49:37.047
for a while um was like
00:49:37.147 --> 00:49:40.008
eating once a day uh so
00:49:40.028 --> 00:49:42.329
like trimmed down on
00:49:42.389 --> 00:49:43.910
calories making sure what i
00:49:44.090 --> 00:49:45.711
am eating is not like junk
00:49:45.791 --> 00:49:47.031
and sugar and stuff like
00:49:47.051 --> 00:49:49.032
that um so yeah i did i did
00:49:49.052 --> 00:49:49.892
drop a lot dropped some
00:49:49.912 --> 00:49:52.434
weight um but now with this
00:49:52.474 --> 00:49:53.834
new job so my new strategy
00:49:54.054 --> 00:49:56.095
is i was only eating like
00:49:56.135 --> 00:49:59.557
at lunchtime but now i'm eating breakfast
00:50:00.546 --> 00:50:02.348
a fairly hearty breakfast
00:50:02.508 --> 00:50:04.650
right and then not eat
00:50:04.690 --> 00:50:06.271
while i'm at work and then
00:50:06.551 --> 00:50:07.932
only and then i'll eat
00:50:07.972 --> 00:50:09.734
again when i return like
00:50:10.194 --> 00:50:11.275
early dinner though like
00:50:11.335 --> 00:50:13.978
four or five um old man
00:50:13.998 --> 00:50:14.878
dinner you're such an old
00:50:14.898 --> 00:50:16.840
man i'm an old man you go
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:18.221
to bed you go to bed at old
00:50:18.241 --> 00:50:19.382
man times you're getting up
00:50:19.462 --> 00:50:20.383
at old man times you're
00:50:20.503 --> 00:50:21.564
eating i get up like at
00:50:22.084 --> 00:50:26.068
four in the morning reading my paper um
00:50:28.683 --> 00:50:30.685
doing my crossword okay uh
00:50:31.646 --> 00:50:35.629
but but i so yeah so that's
00:50:36.930 --> 00:50:38.732
but the the coffee though i
00:50:39.572 --> 00:50:41.414
i do have a water in my bag
00:50:41.894 --> 00:50:44.016
but the the coffee whatever
00:50:44.076 --> 00:50:47.179
coffee is consumed at the
00:50:47.259 --> 00:50:48.940
house that it is it
00:50:50.691 --> 00:50:50.891
Yeah.
00:50:52.312 --> 00:50:53.473
So that's been helping a lot
00:50:54.013 --> 00:50:57.535
as well as the schedule itself.
00:50:57.735 --> 00:51:01.557
So I teach two periods and
00:51:01.577 --> 00:51:05.220
then have a period off.
00:51:05.240 --> 00:51:10.543
Teach another period and then have lunch.
00:51:10.623 --> 00:51:12.064
And then there's essentially
00:51:12.124 --> 00:51:14.025
three periods after that,
00:51:14.305 --> 00:51:17.167
but one of which is like an
00:51:17.287 --> 00:51:19.148
intervention type of period where
00:51:19.733 --> 00:51:21.096
It's just students pull in,
00:51:21.116 --> 00:51:25.006
it's part of their MTSS, where it's,
00:51:26.831 --> 00:51:27.873
they're the Vikings and
00:51:27.893 --> 00:51:28.936
it's called Hammer Time.
00:51:31.373 --> 00:51:33.514
nice dude that's so sick uh
00:51:33.534 --> 00:51:34.635
the kids are obviously are
00:51:34.655 --> 00:51:35.915
not excited about it but uh
00:51:36.676 --> 00:51:37.936
I am I don't let them
00:51:38.016 --> 00:51:39.797
shatter my joy but like uh
00:51:41.337 --> 00:51:42.858
so like so yeah so that's
00:51:42.998 --> 00:51:44.999
that's basically my day and
00:51:45.219 --> 00:51:46.840
one thing I do remember and
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:47.580
Sophie I don't know if you
00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:48.560
can speak to this but like
00:51:49.001 --> 00:51:50.121
when you're teaching a day
00:51:50.181 --> 00:51:51.522
actually goes by crazy fast
00:51:51.722 --> 00:51:53.622
so fast so so fast I do
00:51:53.663 --> 00:51:54.703
remember that I remember
00:51:55.156 --> 00:51:57.817
That being, some days even being a coach,
00:51:57.837 --> 00:51:59.098
the day would fly by.
00:51:59.178 --> 00:52:01.039
Some days, like most days as a teacher,
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:01.979
the day would fly by.
00:52:02.019 --> 00:52:03.200
The only time that the days
00:52:03.260 --> 00:52:05.701
would not fly by are test days.
00:52:06.281 --> 00:52:07.461
They are so long.
00:52:07.481 --> 00:52:08.742
When you're doing nothing.
00:52:08.762 --> 00:52:11.003
When you're doing nothing.
00:52:11.043 --> 00:52:11.363
Yeah.
00:52:11.643 --> 00:52:13.604
Those are the long days that I remember.
00:52:13.684 --> 00:52:15.365
And being like, oh my gosh.
00:52:15.885 --> 00:52:17.626
I dreaded them as much as the kids did.
00:52:17.786 --> 00:52:18.326
Like I did.
00:52:19.247 --> 00:52:20.107
So I definitely...
00:52:21.357 --> 00:52:22.937
When I started hating test
00:52:22.977 --> 00:52:24.298
days is when I was like,
00:52:24.418 --> 00:52:25.638
we got to do something different here.
00:52:25.878 --> 00:52:26.478
And I did.
00:52:26.578 --> 00:52:27.599
I did a little bit of
00:52:27.619 --> 00:52:28.699
revamping and tests were
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.700
not as long as if you're
00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:33.680
going to do it wrong once,
00:52:33.700 --> 00:52:35.040
you're going to do it wrong three times,
00:52:35.101 --> 00:52:35.741
five times.
00:52:35.821 --> 00:52:37.421
And why solidify that in your brain?
00:52:37.461 --> 00:52:41.002
So, yeah,
00:52:41.242 --> 00:52:43.963
we I did revamp a lot of what I
00:52:43.983 --> 00:52:44.583
did for tests.
00:52:45.452 --> 00:52:46.073
Assessments.
00:52:46.473 --> 00:52:48.695
So they were not long
00:52:48.855 --> 00:52:50.897
excruciating days for the
00:52:50.917 --> 00:52:51.657
kids and for me.
00:52:51.697 --> 00:52:54.780
Yeah.
00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:55.200
So nice.
00:52:55.361 --> 00:52:58.904
Yeah.
00:52:59.004 --> 00:53:00.325
I think we have rain here.
00:53:00.385 --> 00:53:01.186
Is it raining there?
00:53:03.307 --> 00:53:06.971
It, it feels like it wants to rain sort of,
00:53:07.011 --> 00:53:09.333
but it's not going to,
00:53:09.413 --> 00:53:13.196
at least according to my phone.
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:18.220
i don't trust i think it i
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.081
think it did just i think i
00:53:21.101 --> 00:53:22.662
hear it like i think it's
00:53:22.702 --> 00:53:23.503
raining right now which
00:53:23.643 --> 00:53:24.503
stinks i wanted to go
00:53:24.523 --> 00:53:27.205
outside today oh well but
00:53:27.225 --> 00:53:29.286
yeah so there um there
00:53:29.366 --> 00:53:31.667
there we are with uh steve
00:53:31.787 --> 00:53:33.488
is down a teacher teaching
00:53:33.528 --> 00:53:34.889
future teachers potentially
00:53:35.750 --> 00:53:37.831
um he's not potentially
00:53:37.851 --> 00:53:38.511
teaching them he is
00:53:38.551 --> 00:53:39.212
teaching them they could
00:53:39.232 --> 00:53:40.052
potentially be future
00:53:40.072 --> 00:53:41.893
teachers at the high school
00:53:41.913 --> 00:53:44.294
level so it's like your pre
00:53:45.275 --> 00:53:46.816
teacher program which is interesting
00:53:53.167 --> 00:53:54.948
And I'm excited to see how,
00:53:55.028 --> 00:53:55.728
cause we've already talked
00:53:55.748 --> 00:53:57.149
about some ideas about like
00:53:57.169 --> 00:53:57.930
the things you can get your,
00:53:58.030 --> 00:53:59.451
your kids certified in and
00:53:59.491 --> 00:54:02.773
like other avenues of what they can do.
00:54:03.133 --> 00:54:05.995
And yeah, so that's exciting.
00:54:06.115 --> 00:54:06.455
It's exciting.
00:54:06.475 --> 00:54:07.496
You're going on this new adventure,
00:54:07.556 --> 00:54:08.377
this new path.
00:54:10.458 --> 00:54:12.399
And I'm starting, I'm in,
00:54:12.740 --> 00:54:14.701
I am in a doctoral program.
00:54:14.761 --> 00:54:16.322
I'm four weeks in, this is week four.
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:18.980
week four's assignment is to make a video.
00:54:19.321 --> 00:54:21.783
So I actually need to record that.
00:54:21.843 --> 00:54:22.543
So I'm actually kind of
00:54:22.563 --> 00:54:23.964
happy that we had the podcast today.
00:54:23.984 --> 00:54:25.065
So I did my makeup and now
00:54:25.145 --> 00:54:26.346
I'm ready to make my video
00:54:26.466 --> 00:54:29.989
homework that is due tomorrow.
00:54:30.569 --> 00:54:31.190
Um, but yeah,
00:54:31.230 --> 00:54:32.170
so I'm hoping to bust that
00:54:32.230 --> 00:54:32.851
out after this.
00:54:33.271 --> 00:54:34.872
Um, it's,
00:54:37.715 --> 00:54:41.037
it's a good distraction from you
00:54:41.097 --> 00:54:42.738
no longer being my coworker
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.581
to be busy doing that stuff.
00:54:45.841 --> 00:54:45.901
Um,
00:54:49.647 --> 00:54:51.828
but it's also really hard to
00:54:51.848 --> 00:54:52.728
handle both of them.
00:54:52.828 --> 00:54:54.349
Like I went on a trip in
00:54:54.409 --> 00:54:57.970
week three for work,
00:54:57.990 --> 00:54:59.011
sitting around surrounded
00:54:59.051 --> 00:55:01.031
by superintendents and also
00:55:01.812 --> 00:55:04.673
trying to read discussion posts,
00:55:04.713 --> 00:55:05.753
create a discussion post,
00:55:05.773 --> 00:55:07.214
read articles and chapters.
00:55:07.314 --> 00:55:08.454
I am loving the book.
00:55:08.534 --> 00:55:10.455
It's Learning Leadership.
00:55:10.835 --> 00:55:12.736
It's a red book, Learning Leadership,
00:55:13.096 --> 00:55:14.216
a fantastic book.
00:55:14.236 --> 00:55:16.177
It has like five fundamentals, blah, blah,
00:55:16.197 --> 00:55:16.697
blah, blah, blah.
00:55:16.717 --> 00:55:17.558
I don't remember the whole title.
00:55:18.971 --> 00:55:20.652
but it is so easy to read
00:55:20.692 --> 00:55:21.552
and I'm learning a lot
00:55:21.672 --> 00:55:23.513
about myself and about leadership.
00:55:24.194 --> 00:55:27.395
And it's, it's really good.
00:55:27.436 --> 00:55:28.176
Steve, you need to read it.
00:55:28.316 --> 00:55:30.277
Like it's really good.
00:55:30.337 --> 00:55:31.338
Send me the title.
00:55:32.238 --> 00:55:33.179
I'm always up for reading.
00:55:35.220 --> 00:55:37.901
I mean, May the fourth is tomorrow.
00:55:38.261 --> 00:55:39.802
I am in the middle of a star Wars book,
00:55:40.162 --> 00:55:43.764
but yeah, I, I see myself doing more.
00:55:44.985 --> 00:55:46.726
Can I call it work reading?
00:55:46.826 --> 00:55:47.286
Is that like,
00:55:48.402 --> 00:55:48.942
You know what I mean?
00:55:49.262 --> 00:55:50.603
Like reading for our own
00:55:51.063 --> 00:55:52.344
professional growth.
00:55:53.164 --> 00:55:54.225
Reading to learn instead of
00:55:54.505 --> 00:55:55.986
reading to entertain.
00:55:56.886 --> 00:55:58.167
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:58.207 --> 00:55:59.968
I'll be doing more of that.
00:56:02.043 --> 00:56:02.343
So yeah,
00:56:02.383 --> 00:56:03.484
that's why we're dressed up the
00:56:03.504 --> 00:56:04.545
way we are is because
00:56:04.565 --> 00:56:05.986
tomorrow is May the fourth,
00:56:06.266 --> 00:56:07.327
may the force be with you.
00:56:07.387 --> 00:56:08.468
So Steve has got, well,
00:56:08.488 --> 00:56:09.749
that's usually his normal
00:56:10.129 --> 00:56:10.970
get up actually.
00:56:11.050 --> 00:56:14.132
And then there's me and the
00:56:14.392 --> 00:56:15.893
three over here.
00:56:17.214 --> 00:56:20.257
But yeah, so hope you all,
00:56:20.517 --> 00:56:23.059
those who celebrate happy star Wars day.
00:56:24.300 --> 00:56:25.260
I'm going to send my mom and
00:56:25.300 --> 00:56:26.601
my uncle off to a star Wars
00:56:26.641 --> 00:56:27.522
trivia and I'm going to,
00:56:28.023 --> 00:56:29.423
make sure i actually have
00:56:29.463 --> 00:56:30.724
like my homework turned in
00:56:30.784 --> 00:56:32.924
on time be the responsible
00:56:33.545 --> 00:56:35.865
researcher student are we
00:56:35.945 --> 00:56:38.046
doing and we yeah we have
00:56:38.066 --> 00:56:39.506
to make it short are we
00:56:39.546 --> 00:56:43.067
doing what's top of mind we
00:56:43.087 --> 00:56:44.308
kind of said a lot maybe
00:56:44.348 --> 00:56:45.528
that's we kind of talked
00:56:45.568 --> 00:56:46.388
already a lot about what's
00:56:46.428 --> 00:56:47.428
on top of our mind like on
00:56:47.488 --> 00:56:49.269
my doctoral program and
00:56:49.349 --> 00:56:50.809
that is true how to
00:56:50.889 --> 00:56:52.030
ethically use ai in the
00:56:52.050 --> 00:56:53.270
classroom and then you're
00:56:56.197 --> 00:56:57.318
student relationships and
00:56:57.338 --> 00:56:58.258
community building, classroom building.
00:56:58.278 --> 00:56:58.518
Yeah.
00:56:58.538 --> 00:56:58.719
Yeah.
00:57:02.761 --> 00:57:03.381
I want to make sure we're
00:57:03.401 --> 00:57:04.742
checking all boxes here
00:57:05.203 --> 00:57:07.244
because this was a well-planned episode.
00:57:08.324 --> 00:57:09.005
Super planned.
00:57:09.325 --> 00:57:10.226
Yeah.
00:57:11.246 --> 00:57:12.507
As most episodes are.
00:57:12.527 --> 00:57:15.069
I at least had questions ready.
00:57:17.110 --> 00:57:18.151
I asked you questions.
00:57:19.732 --> 00:57:23.594
They were ready in my brain somewhere.
00:57:25.851 --> 00:57:30.234
Uh, so what, one thing though, uh, so we,
00:57:30.454 --> 00:57:32.355
we're not going to reveal like who, like,
00:57:32.475 --> 00:57:33.156
you know, in terms of like,
00:57:33.196 --> 00:57:34.596
who's going to be, you know,
00:57:34.716 --> 00:57:36.017
on the show this upcoming fall.
00:57:36.598 --> 00:57:38.739
Um, but I think it's gonna be pretty good.
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:40.760
Uh,
00:57:40.780 --> 00:57:43.622
I met a lot of folks out at Q. A lot of
00:57:43.642 --> 00:57:44.502
people have been sending me
00:57:44.542 --> 00:57:46.323
messages on like, you know,
00:57:46.364 --> 00:57:47.224
happy to be on the show
00:57:47.284 --> 00:57:49.485
talking about a wide range of things.
00:57:49.806 --> 00:57:51.987
I feel Sophie season three
00:57:52.027 --> 00:57:54.909
is going to be a lot of like ed tech, uh,
00:57:55.862 --> 00:57:59.044
Bounders folks that have
00:57:59.164 --> 00:58:00.645
started their own companies.
00:58:00.965 --> 00:58:01.965
What does that look like
00:58:02.046 --> 00:58:04.427
from their own vantage point?
00:58:04.827 --> 00:58:07.128
Um, well, and Steve, uh,
00:58:07.509 --> 00:58:09.690
we also talked about having sort of, uh,
00:58:09.730 --> 00:58:13.252
returning like feature
00:58:13.312 --> 00:58:14.613
guests that are sort of
00:58:14.653 --> 00:58:16.214
like coming back more than
00:58:16.414 --> 00:58:19.075
once to be part of like a
00:58:19.115 --> 00:58:20.156
panel discussion.
00:58:20.716 --> 00:58:20.916
Um,
00:58:21.056 --> 00:58:23.938
so we might have some reoccurring faces.
00:58:24.488 --> 00:58:25.388
not just from previous
00:58:25.428 --> 00:58:27.049
seasons but like it within
00:58:27.069 --> 00:58:27.949
the season that they come
00:58:27.969 --> 00:58:28.889
back and are part of the
00:58:28.909 --> 00:58:32.410
show more than once yeah
00:58:32.810 --> 00:58:35.251
yeah yeah so i'm looking
00:58:35.271 --> 00:58:36.671
forward to it uh you know
00:58:36.751 --> 00:58:38.511
we're at this is closing
00:58:38.531 --> 00:58:39.692
things down this is episode
00:58:39.712 --> 00:58:42.312
fifty one um i think season
00:58:42.352 --> 00:58:44.173
three we can get into
00:58:44.273 --> 00:58:48.274
triple digits maybe really
00:58:49.274 --> 00:58:51.235
i think so it took two
00:58:51.275 --> 00:58:52.715
seasons to get to fifty one
00:58:54.309 --> 00:58:57.590
I know maybe I'm being, well,
00:58:57.610 --> 00:58:59.971
maybe what I'm saying is I think,
00:59:00.611 --> 00:59:01.812
I think the list is quite,
00:59:01.832 --> 00:59:04.433
the list is robust.
00:59:05.413 --> 00:59:05.493
Yeah.
00:59:05.513 --> 00:59:05.673
Yeah.
00:59:06.093 --> 00:59:08.394
Of who, and the,
00:59:08.474 --> 00:59:13.336
the concept of panel discussion is yeah.
00:59:13.676 --> 00:59:15.257
So we're looking, looking forward to that.
00:59:15.277 --> 00:59:16.277
The,
00:59:16.297 --> 00:59:18.058
the last thing that I'll kind of like
00:59:18.078 --> 00:59:19.938
to close with, you know,
00:59:20.038 --> 00:59:21.279
like with my own personal
00:59:21.319 --> 00:59:22.079
journey here and,
00:59:23.190 --> 00:59:24.290
When I left the classroom,
00:59:24.490 --> 00:59:25.811
that was a lifestyle change.
00:59:27.251 --> 00:59:30.252
Going back, still a lifestyle change.
00:59:32.312 --> 00:59:33.392
I do appreciate putting
00:59:33.652 --> 00:59:34.973
shoes on in the morning and
00:59:34.993 --> 00:59:36.073
then just like, bam,
00:59:36.153 --> 00:59:36.893
jamming out somewhere.
00:59:39.114 --> 00:59:39.714
Sometimes.
00:59:39.954 --> 00:59:41.814
At the end of the day, I'm like, oh,
00:59:41.834 --> 00:59:43.095
I could take off shoes right now,
00:59:43.355 --> 00:59:43.935
even though I can't.
00:59:46.015 --> 00:59:48.796
But I will say that
00:59:50.060 --> 00:59:51.781
We talked about earlier, like, you know,
00:59:51.821 --> 00:59:53.702
the hardest part of leaving a job is,
00:59:54.363 --> 00:59:55.463
you know, leaving the people.
00:59:56.644 --> 01:00:00.346
I can confidently say that
01:00:00.506 --> 01:00:04.829
the hardest part was seeing
01:00:04.889 --> 01:00:09.772
Sophie every day, either in a huddle,
01:00:10.432 --> 01:00:11.093
in a meeting,
01:00:11.913 --> 01:00:15.315
in a passive-aggressive exchange,
01:00:16.696 --> 01:00:19.298
sometimes by me, sometimes by her.
01:00:20.567 --> 01:00:25.089
uh and it makes me
01:00:25.389 --> 01:00:28.150
appreciate even more um
01:00:29.071 --> 01:00:30.951
having this show and being
01:00:30.971 --> 01:00:32.732
able to still have you part
01:00:32.752 --> 01:00:35.813
of my life and i just thank
01:00:35.853 --> 01:00:37.474
you for just being here and
01:00:37.554 --> 01:00:38.314
still allowing our
01:00:38.375 --> 01:00:39.935
friendship to like flourish
01:00:40.195 --> 01:00:43.857
and expand and sometimes unravel
01:00:44.992 --> 01:00:46.172
But it revels back together.
01:00:47.553 --> 01:00:48.473
And it comes back together.
01:00:49.694 --> 01:00:52.815
So yeah, Sophie, I love you.
01:00:52.835 --> 01:00:53.595
I appreciate you.
01:00:53.875 --> 01:00:58.497
And I hope that we can do this forever.
01:00:58.737 --> 01:01:00.497
And maybe we get to work
01:01:00.517 --> 01:01:03.198
together someday in a different context.
01:01:04.739 --> 01:01:05.779
Sophie and I always talk, though, like,
01:01:05.819 --> 01:01:05.959
dude,
01:01:05.979 --> 01:01:07.460
what if we all taught at the same school?
01:01:07.520 --> 01:01:09.741
What kind of fire would we cause?
01:01:09.761 --> 01:01:11.561
Right.
01:01:11.581 --> 01:01:12.442
Burn down the house.
01:01:13.902 --> 01:01:16.324
Yes.
01:01:16.584 --> 01:01:17.664
But no, thank you, friend.
01:01:17.684 --> 01:01:19.005
I love the podcast is legit.
01:01:19.065 --> 01:01:20.426
The only reason why I think
01:01:20.486 --> 01:01:21.687
I've been sort of like
01:01:21.927 --> 01:01:24.349
knowing that we're going to
01:01:24.549 --> 01:01:26.210
stay connected because of
01:01:26.230 --> 01:01:28.892
the podcast is been sort of
01:01:29.752 --> 01:01:30.633
a weight off my shoulder
01:01:30.973 --> 01:01:35.376
because as I mentioned before,
01:01:35.456 --> 01:01:36.397
I have gone from school to
01:01:36.417 --> 01:01:37.017
school and those
01:01:37.057 --> 01:01:39.739
relationships have sort of not stayed.
01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:41.480
They've been very
01:01:45.293 --> 01:01:46.775
location-based, job-based,
01:01:47.595 --> 01:01:48.476
proximity-based.
01:01:49.277 --> 01:01:52.320
And I've even had co-workers
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.402
leave CAMI and where we
01:01:55.442 --> 01:01:56.903
were really close while they were there,
01:01:56.944 --> 01:01:59.165
or even just change teams
01:01:59.245 --> 01:02:00.487
within CAMI and where we
01:02:00.507 --> 01:02:01.127
had really close
01:02:01.147 --> 01:02:02.548
relationships and they
01:02:02.648 --> 01:02:03.649
don't exist anymore.
01:02:04.410 --> 01:02:06.692
So I was not easy on Steve.
01:02:08.257 --> 01:02:12.239
about him leaving because I was,
01:02:12.739 --> 01:02:13.799
I did hold a lot back.
01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:17.941
I did, but I was, I wasn't, I wasn't,
01:02:19.562 --> 01:02:20.462
I kept telling him I'm a
01:02:20.502 --> 01:02:21.262
terrible person and
01:02:21.283 --> 01:02:22.043
everyone else is better
01:02:22.063 --> 01:02:23.684
than me because everyone else is like,
01:02:23.704 --> 01:02:25.064
this is so great for you, Steve,
01:02:25.084 --> 01:02:26.024
and you're going to have so much.
01:02:26.044 --> 01:02:27.645
And I'm just like, F you, Steve.
01:02:27.685 --> 01:02:31.567
It's like, you're abandoning me.
01:02:32.167 --> 01:02:34.208
And it's, it's,
01:02:35.253 --> 01:02:36.553
It was a little bit of past
01:02:36.573 --> 01:02:39.274
trauma of my own, like other friendships,
01:02:39.354 --> 01:02:40.455
knowing that that has happened.
01:02:40.515 --> 01:02:41.755
I don't have the data.
01:02:41.995 --> 01:02:43.076
I don't have the experiences
01:02:43.116 --> 01:02:45.136
in my brain to prove to me
01:02:45.176 --> 01:02:47.097
that a relationship outside
01:02:47.137 --> 01:02:49.618
of work and proximity can continue.
01:02:49.638 --> 01:02:51.218
Because if you guys know anything,
01:02:51.498 --> 01:02:52.519
we are literally on the
01:02:52.699 --> 01:02:54.639
opposite sides of the country.
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:57.260
It's not like we can just go
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.041
to the movies or go bowling together,
01:02:59.101 --> 01:03:00.241
because we're literally on
01:03:00.261 --> 01:03:01.282
the opposite side of the country.
01:03:03.527 --> 01:03:04.227
I would have to take
01:03:04.268 --> 01:03:06.169
probably three planes to
01:03:06.189 --> 01:03:11.232
get to him from where I am.
01:03:12.112 --> 01:03:14.094
Um, but yeah, it's,
01:03:16.555 --> 01:03:18.356
it's been a learning experience.
01:03:18.376 --> 01:03:20.058
I've been learning a lot about myself.
01:03:20.358 --> 01:03:21.979
I've been listening to a lot of music.
01:03:21.999 --> 01:03:23.039
I've been leaning on the
01:03:23.059 --> 01:03:24.040
friends that we have
01:03:24.260 --> 01:03:25.901
together and the fact that
01:03:25.921 --> 01:03:27.582
we're still texting, that we're still,
01:03:28.323 --> 01:03:28.483
um,
01:03:30.592 --> 01:03:31.753
Chatting that we're still hanging out.
01:03:31.773 --> 01:03:32.993
We're still supporting each other.
01:03:33.273 --> 01:03:35.555
Even though mine.
01:03:35.575 --> 01:03:37.275
Some aggressive.
01:03:37.355 --> 01:03:38.276
A lot of times.
01:03:39.457 --> 01:03:40.177
Towards you.
01:03:41.177 --> 01:03:42.118
It's still fun.
01:03:42.298 --> 01:03:43.158
Like we still have a lot of
01:03:43.198 --> 01:03:46.420
fun conversations.
01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:46.780
So.
01:03:47.821 --> 01:03:48.321
I agree.
01:03:49.081 --> 01:03:51.923
I. Marco polo helps.
01:03:52.783 --> 01:03:53.444
Yes.
01:03:53.724 --> 01:03:55.405
Your polos on your drive into work.
01:03:56.625 --> 01:03:57.666
Yeah.
01:03:57.726 --> 01:03:57.926
Yeah.
01:04:00.282 --> 01:04:02.504
yeah there's just tools now
01:04:02.544 --> 01:04:03.845
that are allowing people to
01:04:03.885 --> 01:04:05.025
stay connected from around
01:04:05.046 --> 01:04:06.947
the world and if they're
01:04:07.667 --> 01:04:08.588
the fact that we already
01:04:08.628 --> 01:04:10.550
had that foundation of
01:04:10.930 --> 01:04:13.191
digital communication i
01:04:13.211 --> 01:04:15.113
think is a strong point of
01:04:16.434 --> 01:04:17.314
if we want we are not
01:04:17.354 --> 01:04:18.715
dependent on email or slack
01:04:18.755 --> 01:04:20.096
we are like we are using
01:04:20.157 --> 01:04:21.317
all kinds of other tools to
01:04:21.337 --> 01:04:22.398
stay in communication and
01:04:22.418 --> 01:04:23.299
then we also have to get
01:04:23.319 --> 01:04:25.721
together at least once uh
01:04:25.741 --> 01:04:26.881
for two months apparently
01:04:26.901 --> 01:04:27.562
because we haven't
01:04:29.943 --> 01:04:30.723
The show is so long.
01:04:31.083 --> 01:04:32.364
But when we come back in the fall,
01:04:32.424 --> 01:04:33.424
we'll definitely be more
01:04:33.464 --> 01:04:35.005
regular and maybe even have
01:04:36.025 --> 01:04:37.106
some that drop that are
01:04:37.146 --> 01:04:38.466
recorded on different days.
01:04:39.027 --> 01:04:39.367
But yeah,
01:04:39.387 --> 01:04:42.228
so we look forward to season three.
01:04:42.448 --> 01:04:43.729
We're going to have a lot of
01:04:44.689 --> 01:04:46.250
new faces and then some
01:04:46.310 --> 01:04:48.771
recurring faces and really
01:04:48.911 --> 01:04:52.793
cool conversations with
01:04:53.053 --> 01:04:53.933
people in education.
01:04:53.953 --> 01:04:54.073
Yeah.
01:04:56.786 --> 01:04:57.927
No, it's been fun.
01:04:58.327 --> 01:05:00.009
And this season obviously
01:05:00.089 --> 01:05:03.612
has been so much stronger
01:05:04.372 --> 01:05:07.195
than the first season
01:05:07.215 --> 01:05:09.937
because of... I think the
01:05:09.957 --> 01:05:11.118
branding is quite nice.
01:05:11.858 --> 01:05:17.163
The branding helps, yes.
01:05:17.243 --> 01:05:19.985
As well as just knowing more, right?
01:05:21.486 --> 01:05:22.968
Yeah, the first time you do something,
01:05:23.448 --> 01:05:25.950
it's never the best time you did it.
01:05:27.045 --> 01:05:28.366
you know the first time you
01:05:28.406 --> 01:05:29.066
try something in your
01:05:29.106 --> 01:05:30.187
classroom is never the best
01:05:30.227 --> 01:05:31.027
time that you're gonna do
01:05:31.067 --> 01:05:33.428
it like the the fifth time
01:05:33.809 --> 01:05:34.609
season five is gonna be
01:05:34.649 --> 01:05:39.692
fire oh yeah all right
01:05:39.712 --> 01:05:42.353
friends uh so yeah so this
01:05:42.393 --> 01:05:43.754
is a good season thanks for
01:05:43.834 --> 01:05:45.175
everyone that is you know that
01:05:46.530 --> 01:05:47.871
contributing uh
01:05:48.051 --> 01:05:49.092
collaborating with us
01:05:49.132 --> 01:05:51.053
supporting us um you know
01:05:51.073 --> 01:05:52.674
we'll see you all in the
01:05:53.154 --> 01:05:55.216
fall um i might be dropping
01:05:55.256 --> 01:05:56.337
some reels stuff like that
01:05:56.377 --> 01:05:58.138
over the summer um maybe
01:05:58.238 --> 01:06:00.239
posting some updates but
01:06:00.860 --> 01:06:02.641
yeah until next time you
01:06:02.661 --> 01:06:04.302
all have a good summer uh
01:06:04.402 --> 01:06:05.603
enjoy that you know for
01:06:05.623 --> 01:06:06.543
those that are that are in
01:06:06.563 --> 01:06:08.124
the trenches of education
01:06:09.185 --> 01:06:11.407
enjoy that time off um and
01:06:11.547 --> 01:06:13.768
and so yeah until next time
01:06:14.369 --> 01:06:15.609
as always i just realized
01:06:15.629 --> 01:06:16.230
i'm not wearing a hat
01:06:17.426 --> 01:06:17.987
My bad.
01:06:19.808 --> 01:06:22.290
But remember, keep those hats on,
01:06:22.511 --> 01:06:23.892
those minds open.
01:06:25.593 --> 01:06:26.094
Till next time.